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 		<title>Comment on Online Cyborg Sex Facilitates Human Connections by: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.caperet.com/2006/04/18/online-cyborg-sex-facilitates-human-connections/#comment-632</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 08:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Sharlet,

Welcome to Let's Have It, nice to see new commenters.

The question of balance is relevant to many aspects of life, and the marriage of human and technology should not be too one-sided. &quot;Real life&quot; will always exist, but is becoming more tech-augmented every day.

Future generations with mobile phones, GPS and the Internet may not appreciate maps, books and classic orientation with little more than the sun as a guide to where north is. But then, most of us don't know how to make fire like prehistoric man did, and few of us can do arithmetic like people could before calculators. Striking a balance is the key point here, because one day where will we be if suddenly - for example - we don't have power for our computers? What will remain of those tangible things which were such key references in the past?

-Fruey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi Sharlet,</p>
	<p>Welcome to Let&#8217;s Have It, nice to see new commenters.</p>
	<p>The question of balance is relevant to many aspects of life, and the marriage of human and technology should not be too one-sided. &#8220;Real life&#8221; will always exist, but is becoming more tech-augmented every day.</p>
	<p>Future generations with mobile phones, GPS and the Internet may not appreciate maps, books and classic orientation with little more than the sun as a guide to where north is. But then, most of us don&#8217;t know how to make fire like prehistoric man did, and few of us can do arithmetic like people could before calculators. Striking a balance is the key point here, because one day where will we be if suddenly - for example - we don&#8217;t have power for our computers? What will remain of those tangible things which were such key references in the past?</p>
	<p>-Fruey
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 		<title>Comment on Online Cyborg Sex Facilitates Human Connections by: sharlet</title>
		<link>http://www.caperet.com/2006/04/18/online-cyborg-sex-facilitates-human-connections/#comment-623</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 10:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.caperet.com/2006/04/18/online-cyborg-sex-facilitates-human-connections/#comment-623</guid>
					<description>I think it's a matter of balance. Technology serves to improve our lives, but we shouldn't get addicted to it or spend so much time on it such that it decreases the quality of our social interactions with one another. Then again, this whole question of &quot;quality&quot; is debatable. I have many friends who prefer to converse online with each other rather than off, and if not for the Internet, many people I know would be boyfriend/girlfriend/spouse-less right now. Personally though, I feel that nothing beats the &quot;real-life&quot; experience. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I think it&#8217;s a matter of balance. Technology serves to improve our lives, but we shouldn&#8217;t get addicted to it or spend so much time on it such that it decreases the quality of our social interactions with one another. Then again, this whole question of &#8220;quality&#8221; is debatable. I have many friends who prefer to converse online with each other rather than off, and if not for the Internet, many people I know would be boyfriend/girlfriend/spouse-less right now. Personally though, I feel that nothing beats the &#8220;real-life&#8221; experience. <img src='http://www.caperet.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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 		<title>Comment on Online Cyborg Sex Facilitates Human Connections by: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.caperet.com/2006/04/18/online-cyborg-sex-facilitates-human-connections/#comment-562</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 08:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.caperet.com/2006/04/18/online-cyborg-sex-facilitates-human-connections/#comment-562</guid>
					<description>Many books and films postulate a post-apocalyptic world where technology is gone, and humankind go back to the simple basics like conversations, living in social groups, and surviving. The last world war was a time (especially in Europe) where communities were knit together in hardship and duress.

Going back to the nostalgic past probably needs not a revolution but devastation and rebirth. But given the price of oil at the moment, who knows where we are heading?

-Fruey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Many books and films postulate a post-apocalyptic world where technology is gone, and humankind go back to the simple basics like conversations, living in social groups, and surviving. The last world war was a time (especially in Europe) where communities were knit together in hardship and duress.</p>
	<p>Going back to the nostalgic past probably needs not a revolution but devastation and rebirth. But given the price of oil at the moment, who knows where we are heading?</p>
	<p>-Fruey
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 		<title>Comment on Online Cyborg Sex Facilitates Human Connections by: carrster</title>
		<link>http://www.caperet.com/2006/04/18/online-cyborg-sex-facilitates-human-connections/#comment-520</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.caperet.com/2006/04/18/online-cyborg-sex-facilitates-human-connections/#comment-520</guid>
					<description>Marinade Dave - can we go back to that PLEASE?!? 

Perhaps there will be a revolution (for some) where we return to the simpler things like conversations over dinner, gabbing over the back fence with neighbors and writing letters the old fashioned way (btw, I have a pen pal - LETTERS - and we've been writing for 24 years!!) Definitely adds a human element, although I love my email....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Marinade Dave - can we go back to that PLEASE?!? </p>
	<p>Perhaps there will be a revolution (for some) where we return to the simpler things like conversations over dinner, gabbing over the back fence with neighbors and writing letters the old fashioned way (btw, I have a pen pal - LETTERS - and we&#8217;ve been writing for 24 years!!) Definitely adds a human element, although I love my email&#8230;.
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 		<title>Comment on Online Cyborg Sex Facilitates Human Connections by: Marinade Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.caperet.com/2006/04/18/online-cyborg-sex-facilitates-human-connections/#comment-519</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 15:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.caperet.com/2006/04/18/online-cyborg-sex-facilitates-human-connections/#comment-519</guid>
					<description>... and so it goes. Remember the good old days before computers when you'd all sit around the TV set at night, after eating your TV dinners?

Heck! I remember a time when owning a TV was a luxury. Instead, we'd sit around the radio, eating home cooked meals with vegetables picked from a back yard garden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8230; and so it goes. Remember the good old days before computers when you&#8217;d all sit around the TV set at night, after eating your TV dinners?</p>
	<p>Heck! I remember a time when owning a TV was a luxury. Instead, we&#8217;d sit around the radio, eating home cooked meals with vegetables picked from a back yard garden.
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 		<title>Comment on Online Cyborg Sex Facilitates Human Connections by: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.caperet.com/2006/04/18/online-cyborg-sex-facilitates-human-connections/#comment-498</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.caperet.com/2006/04/18/online-cyborg-sex-facilitates-human-connections/#comment-498</guid>
					<description>For me it's a question of how much of your life you're replacing by artificiality. If we forget the sexual stimulation with an object (dildoes have existed forever) but instead look at cyborg and electronic means replacing human interaction, just like arriving at a neighbourhood and meeting the neighbours has been replaced by just moving in and getting on with it, where are we headed?

There seems to be some contradiction, then, between saying that this technology &quot;facilitates&quot; human connections / communication when in fact it removes the need for true in the flesh contact.

I totally agree that anyone who cannot tell the difference needs more than just a reality check... but I wonder if the atrophy in human communication may not have deeper resonances in two or three generations time.

-Fruey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>For me it&#8217;s a question of how much of your life you&#8217;re replacing by artificiality. If we forget the sexual stimulation with an object (dildoes have existed forever) but instead look at cyborg and electronic means replacing human interaction, just like arriving at a neighbourhood and meeting the neighbours has been replaced by just moving in and getting on with it, where are we headed?</p>
	<p>There seems to be some contradiction, then, between saying that this technology &#8220;facilitates&#8221; human connections / communication when in fact it removes the need for true in the flesh contact.</p>
	<p>I totally agree that anyone who cannot tell the difference needs more than just a reality check&#8230; but I wonder if the atrophy in human communication may not have deeper resonances in two or three generations time.</p>
	<p>-Fruey
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 		<title>Comment on Online Cyborg Sex Facilitates Human Connections by: Marinade Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.caperet.com/2006/04/18/online-cyborg-sex-facilitates-human-connections/#comment-497</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 15:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.caperet.com/2006/04/18/online-cyborg-sex-facilitates-human-connections/#comment-497</guid>
					<description>With every evolution in the human cog, we lose something. When I was young, when we moved into a new neighborhood, the neighbors would bring you something to welcome you. Seldom do we receive that sort of fellowship and bonding, but does it make us less human? 

Personally, I think that anyone who cannot tell the difference between some sort of cyborg or artificial intelligence and the real thing needs to get more than just their heads examined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>With every evolution in the human cog, we lose something. When I was young, when we moved into a new neighborhood, the neighbors would bring you something to welcome you. Seldom do we receive that sort of fellowship and bonding, but does it make us less human? </p>
	<p>Personally, I think that anyone who cannot tell the difference between some sort of cyborg or artificial intelligence and the real thing needs to get more than just their heads examined.
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 		<title>Comment on Online Cyborg Sex Facilitates Human Connections by: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.caperet.com/2006/04/18/online-cyborg-sex-facilitates-human-connections/#comment-496</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 07:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.caperet.com/2006/04/18/online-cyborg-sex-facilitates-human-connections/#comment-496</guid>
					<description>Hi Dave,

Well solitary or shared pleasures are not, in my opinion, the same as a cyborg relationship where a human is replaced by a simulated human. 

Battery operated &quot;personal&quot; devices are not the same as a device linked to a network and controlled at a distance. At this point, the line begins to blur but nothing that serious. However, what if the controller is software which starts to have elements of artificial intelligence and pretends to be human? 

How does the human touch differ from the simulated cyborg, and what happens if a new generation stop being able to discern the difference? Are we facilitating human interaction or replacing it at this point?

You could draw a parallel with writing a letter or writing an email. There may not be a difference in the words you write, but there's something more human about the letter, no? When we no longer write letters on paper with ink, have we not lost something?

-Fruey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi Dave,</p>
	<p>Well solitary or shared pleasures are not, in my opinion, the same as a cyborg relationship where a human is replaced by a simulated human. </p>
	<p>Battery operated &#8220;personal&#8221; devices are not the same as a device linked to a network and controlled at a distance. At this point, the line begins to blur but nothing that serious. However, what if the controller is software which starts to have elements of artificial intelligence and pretends to be human? </p>
	<p>How does the human touch differ from the simulated cyborg, and what happens if a new generation stop being able to discern the difference? Are we facilitating human interaction or replacing it at this point?</p>
	<p>You could draw a parallel with writing a letter or writing an email. There may not be a difference in the words you write, but there&#8217;s something more human about the letter, no? When we no longer write letters on paper with ink, have we not lost something?</p>
	<p>-Fruey
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 		<title>Comment on Online Cyborg Sex Facilitates Human Connections by: Marinade Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.caperet.com/2006/04/18/online-cyborg-sex-facilitates-human-connections/#comment-495</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2006 20:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.caperet.com/2006/04/18/online-cyborg-sex-facilitates-human-connections/#comment-495</guid>
					<description>Hmm... I don't know. Women, er, excuse me, people (I need to be politically correct here) have been using battery operated devices for years now. Happily married ones, too. While watching videos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hmm&#8230; I don&#8217;t know. Women, er, excuse me, people (I need to be politically correct here) have been using battery operated devices for years now. Happily married ones, too. While watching videos.
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